Post by Kurosaki on Mar 26, 2011 7:41:17 GMT -5
Well, when I started this forum I added a board for learning Japanese. It never got used much. =/ So I had mostly given up on it. However, lately I've been talking to Thor, Shade, and Xen who all know Japanese or are learning Japanese, so I figured I'd make this thread so that we can help each other out in our spare time with words and grammar points that aren't usually covered in class, or if they are, are covered too briefly.
An example would be slang terms and short forms.
When I was in Japan, my friends mostly spoke in short form to me since we were of the same age and standing.
What's the difference between short form and long form? This is for those that don't know Japanese or are just starting out.
Basically it makes the sentence less polite and allows you to cut down on the amount you have to say.
Watashi wa teberi o mimasu. (long form)
I watch television.
Watashi (wa) terebi (o) miru. (short form)
I watch television.
These are both the same sentence, but one carries more politeness, the first, than the second. If you use the first to a friend of your same age and standing you will probably be corrected. Wa and o are also optional. Some particles are not. Usually ni is NOT optional because it describes the action of going to or being at.
Watashi wa eki ni ikimasu.
Watashi (wa) eki ni iku.
As you can see, these both mean "I go to the train station" but in both ni is still kept in the sentence.
It's in my opinion that everyone should learn the long form first though, because this makes it so you will not offend other that you might speak to that are higher in standing or seniors to you (though often times, they require an EVEN MORE polite level of speech called keigo).
I'll show you what keigo looks like but I won't go that far in depth...
Sensei wa honjitsu gakkou ni irashaimashita.
Sensei wa kyou gakkou ni ikimashita.
Both mean, "today the sensei came to school".
And of course, I'm just typing things that randomly come to my mind. If you guys want to know anything in particular or need help with homework, etc, please let me know on here or the cbox. =D
An example would be slang terms and short forms.
When I was in Japan, my friends mostly spoke in short form to me since we were of the same age and standing.
What's the difference between short form and long form? This is for those that don't know Japanese or are just starting out.
Basically it makes the sentence less polite and allows you to cut down on the amount you have to say.
Watashi wa teberi o mimasu. (long form)
I watch television.
Watashi (wa) terebi (o) miru. (short form)
I watch television.
These are both the same sentence, but one carries more politeness, the first, than the second. If you use the first to a friend of your same age and standing you will probably be corrected. Wa and o are also optional. Some particles are not. Usually ni is NOT optional because it describes the action of going to or being at.
Watashi wa eki ni ikimasu.
Watashi (wa) eki ni iku.
As you can see, these both mean "I go to the train station" but in both ni is still kept in the sentence.
It's in my opinion that everyone should learn the long form first though, because this makes it so you will not offend other that you might speak to that are higher in standing or seniors to you (though often times, they require an EVEN MORE polite level of speech called keigo).
I'll show you what keigo looks like but I won't go that far in depth...
Sensei wa honjitsu gakkou ni irashaimashita.
Sensei wa kyou gakkou ni ikimashita.
Both mean, "today the sensei came to school".
And of course, I'm just typing things that randomly come to my mind. If you guys want to know anything in particular or need help with homework, etc, please let me know on here or the cbox. =D