Spoilers rule in cbox.

[Deleted]

So we have this unwritten rule that manga spoilers shouldn't be spoken in Cbox. We should have that put up instead of schooling every new person when they utter something without knowing. And maybe be clear about what spoilers are meant. As far as I've heard, we don't want to have anything that hasn't been in the anime brought up? Does cover story/chapter 0 fall out of that as well?

[Deleted]

The current spoiler rules for the forum say nothing that hasn't been released by Funimation or Shonen Jump. (I'm assuming that refers to the US release? Since Japanese Shonen Jump spoilers are still anime spoilers.) Whatever we decide constitutes a spoiler, it's not a bad idea to add it to the cbox rules, but I think generally you can assume that any forum rules apply to the cbox as well.

Personally, I don't follow the English releases, and I'm only vaguely aware of where the anime is at, so I've just been applying a common sense approach to recent manga spoilers.

But it's been brought up that being asked not to spoil or having their messages deleted is a sore point for some members, especially if the staff member in question can't quote an exact rule. We should probably keep in mind that any spoiler rule exists to prevent the story from being ruined for other people, not because anyone on the staff considers spoilers inherently unacceptable discussion.

I know no one really uses it, and maybe we can have it linked in a more obvious place, but there is a separate chatbox with no restrictions on spoilers. I'd prefer a chat channel (like the red and blue plotting and brainstorming ones) but I've been told it's not possible to add any more to the current box. Maybe one solution would be to combine red and blue into one brainstorming channel and have a spoiler channel in the primary box?

[Jade]

If I may make a comment regarding the channels; as amazing, wonderful, and useful as they are, they do have one major issue...

There's no way to not see channels when using a mobile device.

So while having a channel to talk spoilers in the main chat is a good idea on paper, we run the risk of people who come in on mobile or just don't know how to work the channels still getting spoiled without their consent. The BV Spoiler Chat is probably the best way to handle a chatting about spoilers for the time being, at least until mobile Chatango gets its act together.

... Also, probably not the place to mention this, but if we could somehow enforce a rule about not having unreadable text colors in the chat, that would be amazing. I know you can opt out of seeing text changed on the main Chatango, but mobile Chatango, once again, doesn't have this feature. For instance, when Mim had his Peridot colors going on, I couldn't read his text at all on mobile, and I know someone was running around with a white text color the other day...

[Deleted]

Huh, I had no idea. I've never tried to access the board or the chat on mobile. Are the chat rules visible on the mobile site? That might not be a bad place to put a link to the spoiler chat.

Concerning chat colors, I think part of the problem is that if you access the chat through the main page, the background is black, but if you open it in a new tab, it's white. The Peridot green showed up just fine for me on black; what color is the chat background on mobile?

[Blaka]

You cannot see the rules on mobile, as it works as if you open the box in a new tab. For the same reason, the box is white making some colours indeed very hard to see.

Just adding the spoiler rule to the seabox rules already next to it would solve most of that problem at least. Since even if you usually come in on mobile there is no way to even know that a cbox exists without having it - and the rules for it next to it - seen at least one time on a pc somewhere.

[Jade]

Also, at least on my phone, accessing the chat box on the main site it impossible - it just opens the chat by itself. Which is weird and a pain in the butt...

[Deleted]

So a spoiler is anything that has not been dubbed into English? If that's the case, we've got spoilers all over the site and even when checked by mods we've been talking spoilers in the chat. Personally I think that's a little extreme- I'm not sure that many people tend to keep up with the English releases, and it's so far behind anyways.

I think we should limit it to having, say, the last 30 chapters being taboo. This way we can still discuss older cover stories and SBS info without worry, and people that don't follow the anime can know where they should cut it off. This also leans the discussions and any evidence used to support an idea to canon stuff.

Regardless, it should be clearly defined for both site and seabox- a brief "No Spoilers" doesn't cut it. Also, if you're going to wipe someone's message or post, I think they should be let known why, and that it happened- they may think they just didn't submit or glitched, and then they post again and get chewed out for being defiant. On a side note, it definitely shouldn't be a power used to play around and troll each other with, even amongst just those who have that ability.

I can choose channels on my phone, but I can't speak for all Mobile users, so I'm not sure how to deal with that, tbh.

[Jade]

Oh, choosing a channel to use isn't the issue with mobile - it's the fact that you cannot opt out of seeing channels on mobile that is the problem. Which is, uh, sort of what you'd want to do if you're going to be having a channel specifically for things people may wish to not see, such as in the case of spoilers.

And, personally, I'm more of a fan of just continuing to say "no discussing things that haven't had an 'official' anime release", since that's the slower of the two and I know several people who purely watch the show. If you want to talk about current manga happenings, then we have a chat box for that - we should simply make that option more visible.

[Mizuzuzu]

I, uh, don't understand Aj? Mobile can in fact filter the channels. Maybe you just don't know how? And, yes, I agree with leaving it as unwritten rule, but maybe the box that allows spoilers should be linked somewhere easily found for others?

[Jade]

... Huh. I have never seen this option before today. Regardless, I still say that a spoiler chat is the better way of handling the situation.

[Kurosaki]

Hm, I think we do have room to clarify spoilers. It's been an issue in the past which we've tried to work to resolve but basically we have always had a unofficial rule (and I believe it used to be official in my rules list) that spoilers past the anime were not allowed on the cbox but allowed on the spoiler chat which has always been linked to. We've also politely asked people to take it to pc. I think the best thing for us to all do is have a forum poll and see what people are willing to tolerate but last time we pretty much went with the anime release episodes. It's the furthest back and makes sense for those that solely watch the anime. That being said, the channel idea IS a good idea but what if you forget to filter it? I'm worried we'll have upset members on the opposite end of the spectrum.

For sake of clarify, I'll add to the spoiler rules that things past the anime should not be allowed on the cbox.

[EriChar]

We also have a spoiler chat somewhere, as I recall?